Geeks and God IRC Transcripts for 08/01/2008

Welcome to the 'geeksandgod' room
14:32 mojodean : you could run the txt through Career Builder monkey mail.
14:33 JesusGeek : Sounds like a winner.
14:33 ConnectedGeek : in my Garage :)
14:33 kwang0274 : Nice!!! Awesome!!!
14:33 dm12dm : NY!!!
14:33 kwang0274 : Start spreading the news...
14:33 mojodean : Yes. And yes.
14:33 ConnectedGeek : yes
14:33 kwang0274 : It's worth it. It'll be a lot of work.
14:33 tgbdad : +1
14:33 JesusGeek : +1
14:34 mojodean : Def. It was a little overwhelming first time I went to GnG.
14:34 ConnectedGeek : +10
14:34 mojodean : Exactly. GnG was my first "Drupal experience" so I'm liking the redesign.
14:34 JesusGeek : Getting topics other than Drupal will draw in more people
14:35 JesusGeek : hahaha
14:35 ConnectedGeek : a link area
14:35 tgbdad : go outside web. you mentioned lx and sound
14:35 ConnectedGeek : lost sound
14:35 JesusGeek : video just froze
14:35 erikanderson : yup
14:35 tgbdad : oh no. l just lost video/audio
14:35 kwang0274 : Oh, no... come back
14:35 dm12dm : same here
14:35 tgbdad : must be their side
14:36 erikanderson : hehe
14:36 tgbdad : oh no. not the sprinkler again!
14:36 kwang0274 : They just don't want to share all the conference ideas with us. Keep us in suspense
14:36 ConnectedGeek : need to have a area to post your site and people can comment about it
14:36 JesusGeek : Roscoe must have chewed on the router.
14:37 Rob_Feature : sorry, it died
14:37 kwang0274 : They have something like that already in the forums
14:37 ConnectedGeek : cool
14:37 ConnectedGeek : need to find that
14:37 JesusGeek : Hey! It's me!
14:37 ConnectedGeek : back
14:37 JesusGeek : Now I'm gone.
14:37 kwang0274 : They're back
14:37 ConnectedGeek : i can hear
14:37 tgbdad : we can hear you
14:37 tgbdad : was gonna say, expand beyond web, let alone drupal
14:38 tgbdad : we have other skillz among us: lx, sound, network, what else?
14:38 tgbdad : we have mac heads, linux geeks
14:39 erikanderson : even if you guys don't know the other topics, you *do* ask the right questions about them.
14:39 erikanderson : ...in regards to usability, functionality, etc.
14:39 ConnectedGeek : it was better
14:39 ConnectedGeek : for a sec
14:40 ConnectedGeek : i know how to build a server :)
14:40 ConnectedGeek : hehe
14:40 JesusGeek : Sounds like we have a plan
14:40 ConnectedGeek : just tell us what we need to do to help
14:41 ConnectedGeek : other than have this conversation :)
14:41 JesusGeek : wait
14:42 ConnectedGeek : you should video some of the redesign
14:42 JesusGeek : How about donations for a screencast account that all of us can use
14:42 JesusGeek : yes
14:42 JesusGeek : Jing looks so much better
14:42 erikanderson : ...or vimeo.com
14:42 erikanderson : sweet
14:43 JesusGeek : GodTube?
14:43 JesusGeek : :)
14:43 tgbdad : LOL
14:43 kwang0274 : Did I miss the conference info?
14:43 JesusGeek : I have a GodTube account
14:44 erikanderson : just out of curiosity, what are the monthly bandwidth numbers?
14:44 ConnectedGeek : you should have another meeting (like this) in about a month
14:44 kwang0274 : Nice!!!
14:44 tgbdad : maybe we can use talkshoe ?
14:45 tgbdad : yes
14:45 ConnectedGeek : yes
14:45 JesusGeek : There's also UStream.
14:45 ConnectedGeek : stickam
14:45 tgbdad : talkshoe hass chat, too.
14:45 erikanderson : talkshoe also has chat, but no video.
14:45 tgbdad : the ChurchITPodcast guys are also in irc while they talk
14:45 kwang0274 : www.geekbrief.tv basically a couple who started video podcasting and their goal is to do it as good and as cheap as possible
14:45 tgbdad : I meant for chats like this, not necessarily part of the site
14:46 JesusGeek : Schweet!
14:46 erikanderson : y
14:46 ConnectedGeek : YES
14:46 kwang0274 : Cool!
14:46 ConnectedGeek : so
14:46 ConnectedGeek : who cares :)
14:46 erikanderson : /me likes distraction.
14:46 tgbdad : as opposed to now?
14:46 kwang0274 : My boss might not like it. Luckily I work with my mom.
14:46 ConnectedGeek : yes
14:46 ConnectedGeek : we do
14:47 JesusGeek : Weekends & evenings would be nice too.
14:48 JesusGeek : Amen!
14:48 tgbdad : boagworld?
14:48 klcase : agreed
14:48 ConnectedGeek : you should have a moderator or two
14:48 kwang0274 : I was there
14:48 kwang0274 : NY!!!
14:49 klcase : can u turn the fan off
14:49 tgbdad : can't hear it.
14:49 erikanderson : I can't hear it
14:49 kwang0274 : I don't hear anything
14:49 JesusGeek : +1
14:49 ConnectedGeek : it's all good
14:49 klcase : just me ok
14:49 tgbdad : it's making the picture flash behind you
14:49 JesusGeek : kwang are you in NY?
14:50 kwang0274 : I'm in NJ
14:50 tgbdad : not that bad
14:52 tgbdad : makes sense
14:52 klcase : got it
14:53 erikanderson : in the podcast, you mentioned having something more like unconference or BarCamp. Is that still in the picture?
14:53 ConnectedGeek : i will would go to the unconference
14:54 kwang0274 : Is this being recorded?
14:54 klcase : what if the geek is the pastor
14:56 tgbdad : just pastors, or other non-geek church staff, too?
14:56 kwang0274 : Time to pitch this to my pastor
14:56 Shrop : I am a bit freaked out right now
14:56 mojodean : What if he is the same person?
14:56 Shrop : yo
14:56 tgbdad : shrop!
14:56 Shrop : you guys are live! just not used to it yet :)
14:57 kwang0274 : I've to run... I hope I can watch this again later.
14:57 ConnectedGeek : are you recording?
14:57 mojodean : BAM! Good thought MF
14:57 ConnectedGeek : grrrr at you
14:59 bladow : i'm assuming you do consulting also
14:59 erikanderson : sweet - come to Minneapolis and I'll host :-)
14:59 mojodean : Works for me. Can I bum a ride to NYC?
14:59 ConnectedGeek : works for me
15:00 JesusGeek : Hope this is being recorded. I dropped out.
15:00 Shrop : going to run guys. imaging some macs, but I will be willing to help out for conferences in the Charlotte area.. l8r guys
15:00 JesusGeek : Still dirt cheap.
15:01 bladow : i live near charlotte
15:01 ConnectedGeek : not being recorded
15:02 ConnectedGeek : it's a lot of money for me... but the reward is priceless
15:02 JesusGeek : Let's get together offline
15:03 JesusGeek : sounds cool
15:03 mojodean : I love it, frankly. I wear both hats (ministry and church geek) so I like the "this is a ministry" idea.
15:03 JesusGeek : yes
15:03 erikanderson : yes.
15:03 bladow : yeah Michigan probably too far
15:04 ConnectedGeek : i want more depth
15:04 bradentontech : just came in missed what it would be
15:04 ConnectedGeek : more admin stuff
15:04 JesusGeek : you bet, I've already been talking with my wife about it
15:05 JesusGeek : spoon!
15:05 ConnectedGeek : this is good stuff
15:05 bladow : twitter
15:05 mojodean : Tweet
15:05 erikanderson : twitter
15:05 bradentontech : twitter reference
15:05 David Russell : Twitter
15:05 tgbdad : twitter
15:05 erikanderson : wow
15:05 ConnectedGeek : you need do this more often
15:05 David Russell : amitry on Twitter
15:05 David Russell : new flashmob
15:06 David Russell : nope
15:06 tgbdad : amitry retweeted. nice...
15:06 David Russell : Digital Pastor at National Community Church
15:06 mojodean : So where is the GnG Live afterparty?
15:06 David Russell : feel free to re-cap what in the world you are talking about
15:06 tgbdad : heading up north. wife would kill me.
15:06 tgbdad : otherwise i would
15:07 David Russell : random junk is how i live my lige
15:07 David Russell : life*
15:07 David Russell : feel free to
15:07 bradentontech : amen
15:07 mojodean : gotta run. Good work today. Looking forward to the upcoming podcast, conference, etc. Rob, coffee/beer soon?
15:07 JesusGeek : Woo-hoo!
15:08 David Russell : cool
15:08 David Russell : yeah, there's like four of us now
15:08 erikanderson : make sure to tweet about it next time so we hop on.
15:09 bradentontech : website?
15:10 JesusGeek : Chai tea in Cali
15:10 David Russell : just enough time for some yoga
15:10 tgbdad : Is MF gonna do the sprinkler live this week?
15:11 ConnectedGeek : rob, you really need to mix up the video during the break
15:11 ConnectedGeek : you should have the disk now
15:11 ConnectedGeek : that i sent you
15:13 bladow : is that shot from a laptop
15:17 tgbdad : yes, shot with a laptop
15:26 EdRoss : hurah! I've been asleep
15:26 EdRoss : I'm back now
15:26 mattfarina : can you hear us?
15:26 EdRoss : yes
15:26 EdRoss : it's fine
15:27 EdRoss : (which is what I'd expect from you)
15:27 ConnectedGeek : yes
15:27 EdRoss : yes
15:27 ConnectedGeek : fun
15:27 EdRoss : the moving circle background is a bit ofputting though
15:28 EdRoss : where it says "Welcome to Geeks&God"
15:28 EdRoss : under the video
15:28 EdRoss : as Leo might say, the "lower third"
15:29 bladow : how about talking about using flash for church sites
15:29 bladow : good or bad
15:29 tgbdad : troublemaker...
15:29 bladow : ha
15:30 EdRoss : how about "Keeping Jesus at the centre (or center for you) of the ministry, even if it is a tech ministry"?
15:30 bladow : ed's is good
15:30 tgbdad : Ed Ross is always right!
15:31 ConnectedGeek : you know you guys should have a call in show some time... facebook has a califlower program that works wonders
15:31 bladow : is typing during prayer bad
15:32 EdRoss : please could you mention edross.co.uk and my new venture, if you wouldn't mind?
15:34 EdRoss : thank you :)
15:34 ConnectedGeek : you sound great :)
15:34 ConnectedGeek : dance
15:34 ConnectedGeek : dance
15:34 ConnectedGeek : dance
15:34 bladow : yeah dance
15:34 EdRoss : this is actually quite useful that I'm here righ now - I'm getting to the point where I'll not be able to keep up to date with my podcast listening......
15:35 EdRoss : so hearing one live is a nice ending
15:35 bladow : hi
15:35 David Russell : Word.
15:35 EdRoss : hi
15:35 ConnectedGeek : woo hoo
15:36 EdRoss : does this chat get archived too?
15:36 ConnectedGeek : i will look in to it
15:36 ConnectedGeek : i hope so
15:37 David Russell : Flash for media is brilliant. Flash for content sucks.
15:38 tgbdad : Amen!
15:38 EdRoss : isn't it the savour of the universe?
15:39 David K : awesome
15:39 David K : MTV.com doesn't use Flash anymore
15:39 David Russell : It is definitely possible to get HTML content into Flash, which is indexable and accessible, but it's so much more work. And what's the point, after all?
15:39 bladow : so agree to offer html and flash site
15:39 David K : Too many problems with user's environment
15:40 David Russell : Typography? Maybe. But there are options for that too that aren't as cumbersome (sIFR, etc)
15:40 David K : Are video in youtube.com necessary?
15:41 David K : YouTube wouldn't exist without flash...
15:41 David Russell : Especially not for navigation! That's the biggest problem I see on church and ministry sites. Flash nav
15:41 David Russell : Or if JS is disabled...
15:43 EdRoss : 3 months training, 3 months overseas mission, then hopefully working for the organisation in IT
15:43 EdRoss : thank you
15:43 bladow : quite time
15:43 David K : You here Jesus' voice #1
15:44 EdRoss : liking the arm movement!
15:45 David K : Zacharias doesn't believe in Miracles :-(
15:46 EdRoss : I went there today - it didn't seem to be up. is it geekbrownbag.com ?
15:46 David K : Droopal? Yuk :-(
15:47 tgbdad : mogulus.com/gbb
15:47 EdRoss : thanks
15:48 EdRoss : great idea
15:48 tgbdad : sam was planning to build geekbrownbag.com using Drupal after the conference, so it should be up soon
15:48 EdRoss : thanks for that
15:49 ConnectedGeek : i can't find the IRC channel for mogulus
15:49 ConnectedGeek : i will keep working on finding it
15:50 EdRoss : can you use screenflow to record your screen?
15:50 David Russell : ExpressionEngine is superior to Drupal
15:50 David K : IT's called Ruby
15:50 David K : and Merb
15:50 ConnectedGeek : i did create an IRC channel on FREENODE called #geeksandgod
15:50 dm12dm : EE is in not
15:51 David K : EE is a snore
15:51 David Russell : You guys should just keep railing on Flash all episode
15:51 tgbdad : @connectedgeek, there's also #drupal-churches
15:51 ConnectedGeek : on freenode?
15:51 mattfarina : everyone play nice. no fighting on the channel. Geek wrestling WWE style
15:51 David K : CMS ' trap you into a way of thinking
15:51 David Russell : It doesn't bug me when people call EE a snore. It will be amazing when we take over the world of content publishing.
15:51 EdRoss : shouldn't it be "I can do more with EE, but you may be able to do more with drupal. If I knew more about Drupal I'd be able to do more with it"?
15:52 ConnectedGeek : yes
15:52 ConnectedGeek : thx
15:52 David Russell : EdRoss, nah. EE is just superior.
15:52 David Russell : :)
15:53 David Russell : Obviously, I'm being sarcastic. But I reallylove EE. Just putting that out there. Drupal really is solid!
15:53 ConnectedGeek : http://geeksandgod.com/conference/
15:53 David K : Try doing a mass user import with only First/Last Name and Email Address
15:53 David K : Then do an email blast from that
15:54 David K : Boing :-( EE can't do it easily.
15:54 David Russell : Because mono is a great option to make voice less data-intensive
15:54 tgbdad : yep
15:54 ConnectedGeek : yes
15:54 tgbdad : mic based on suggestions from G&G
15:54 David Russell : I use CampaignMonitor for distributed email campaigns
15:54 EdRoss : ah wow! that does sound great!
15:55 David Russell : I'm not really a fan of EE's Communicate module, but it does work. I just use CM because it rocks and integrates easily
15:55 EdRoss : (maybe even clearer than the live audio) ;)
15:55 David Russell : Agreed - That audio seems hotter than studio mics.
15:56 David K : I love WordPress! Awesomeness
15:56 tgbdad : Shure SM7B, same mic as G&G use.
15:56 David K : The possibilities are endless...
15:56 tgbdad : Milan is on a Beta87A
15:56 tgbdad : Using a Presonus Firepod going into Cubase SE
15:57 tgbdad : For anyone curious. ;-)
15:57 David K : We need more than an online community
15:57 EdRoss : you brought a whole mobile recording studio to the conference?
15:57 David K : We need best practices :-)
15:58 tgbdad : Ed, Rob brought the rig that pastor dion uses. and JesusGeek brought his stuff.
15:58 tgbdad : We recorded conference from FOH using USB recorder that was there
15:58 tgbdad : This piece was recorded at our church on Wednesday
15:59 David K : Are those bedsheets behind you guys
15:59 EdRoss : lol at face
15:59 David K : are you in a cubicle
16:00 David K : There are pro's and nubes
16:00 David K : that's life
16:00 ConnectedGeek : this is good stuff
16:00 EdRoss : 1st thing I thought was in a tent, but then I've just been on the youth camp for a week!
16:00 mattfarina : They aren't bed sheets but they might as well be
16:00 David K : I love it
16:00 mattfarina : they dampen the sound bouncing off the walls
16:00 David K : I feel like I'm in a tent
16:01 David K : Is that a 3G?
16:01 David K : ZinTin best iPhone app
16:01 Rob_Feature : Nope, it's a touch
16:01 David K : hmmm
16:02 bladow : is there a link to a site that lists the best church sites
16:02 ConnectedGeek : HEY SAM!!
16:02 WebServant : Hey Larry!
16:02 David K : http://www.cssbeauty.com/
16:02 EdRoss : I remember a Digg post like that bladow
16:02 EdRoss : or just google it :)
16:03 bladow : tnks
16:03 EdRoss : are you sure you want an iphone on furing recording? what about the GSM bupbupbupbupbupbupbup sound they make on recordings?
16:04 EdRoss : during, not "furing"!
16:04 David K : http://www.edgepointchurch.com/
16:04 David K : That's a nice site.
16:04 David K : zintin
16:04 David K : lastfm
16:05 David K : twitterific
16:05 David K : urbanspoon
16:05 David K : more cowbell
16:05 EdRoss : I got this Orange M3100 from my pastor for my trip. 1st things I got were the gmail app and tinytwitter for twitter. anything that reduced the amount........
16:05 EdRoss : of data I need to download to get the same inforamtion is good
16:06 EdRoss : (phone is HTC 3100 for overseas peeps)
16:07 David K : wordpress iPhone app is kewl
16:07 EdRoss : wow - you actuall do cough! ;)
16:07 David K : facebook app
16:07 David K : pandora
16:07 WebServant : I want an iPhone. :-D
16:08 David Russell : Don't have an iPhone. Peace out.
16:08 WebServant : Loop or Loopt, something like that is pretty cool.
16:08 ConnectedGeek : i like twinkle
16:08 ConnectedGeek : it is Loopt
16:08 tgbdad : weren't people playing with lightsaber and more cowbell at dinner last week?
16:09 WebServant : YEs, they were
16:09 ConnectedGeek : pandora is awesome
16:09 tgbdad : WebServant is here! When did you sneak in?
16:09 WebServant : I snuck in a few minutes ago. Larry saw me sneak in. :-D
16:10 EdRoss : I think orb (as mentioned recently of the G&G forum) could be quite fun for mobiles - you get to use all the media on your computer, but from anywhere else
16:11 EdRoss : maybe *this* stuff is web 3.0 -not the web at all, but ways of using the net to get your info to/from you wherever you are
16:12 WebServant : You're welcome!
16:12 EdRoss : what about having a separte twitter account like Leo Laporte's twitlive, just to announce recordings session start times? or would that be overkill?
16:12 ConnectedGeek : that is a good idea
16:12 WebServant : I missed it
16:13 WebServant : I'll listen to it on my iPod, no worries
16:13 Chad : I enjoyed the live podcast guys, thanks !
16:13 Mrs Feature : Mrs Feature: This is WAY to geeky! ;)
16:13 ConnectedGeek : hehe
16:13 tgbdad : live video was fun!
16:13 WebServant : Agreed. Live video is the way to do it.
16:13 WebServant : L8R
16:13 EdRoss : why not have a paper based checklist of things you need to do when setting up the show, and you can tick off all the steps, so you know you have recording setup
16:14 ConnectedGeek : hey all
16:14 WebServant : C ya
16:14 ConnectedGeek : i created a IRC channel
16:14 ConnectedGeek : at freenode
16:14 WebServant : WebServant > out
16:14 David K : what's the irc channel?
16:14 Chad : Have a great weekend guys...Bye!
16:14 ConnectedGeek : #geeksandgod
16:15 ConnectedGeek : it is on FREENODE
16:15 EdRoss : thanks guys - this has been a great way to (probably) end my full time podcast listening (for the moment). It's been a fun few years.
16:16 David K : the audio sounds muffled now
16:16 EdRoss : I'm glad my housemate knocked on my doo when he did, else I would have slept right though this
16:16 tgbdad : put the compressor on, cooking the inputs on MF's laptop, I'll bet
16:16 Rob_Feature : audio ok, guys?
16:17 Rob_Feature : actually we gotta kill it, MF has to go...sorry
16:17 EdRoss : ok. bye! thnks for this, once again
16:17 Rob_Feature : see ya, Ed
16:17 mattfarina : thanks for joining us. I'm out
16:17 tgbdad : see ya
16:17 ConnectedGeek : you need to do a Leo Laporte
16:17 ConnectedGeek : leave the video on all the time :)
16:18 EdRoss : and get a nationwide syndicated radion show
16:18 EdRoss : radio
16:18 ConnectedGeek : hehe
16:18 ConnectedGeek : if you want to chat more --- we have an IRC channel at FREENODE #geeksandgod
16:19 ConnectedGeek : later
16:19 ConnectedGeek : signing off